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| 00:58:31 | enthus1ast | i've got a relative stable version of an small irc server toy, its not yet feature rich but chatting is working |
| 00:59:39 | enthus1ast | and i also create a little websocket to tcp proxy with a html/js demo irc client |
| 01:01:08 | enthus1ast | if you like to play with it: https://github.com/enthus1ast/libch4t |
| 01:01:20 | enthus1ast | https://github.com/enthus1ast/nimWsToTcp |
| 01:03:39 | Araq | yummy, will try tomorrow |
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| 15:22:56 | lesshaste | hi all |
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| 15:25:14 | Araq | welcome lesshaste |
| 15:25:40 | lesshaste | Araq, I have never used nim and I am wondering how hard it would be to translate some relatively simple python code I have |
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| 15:25:46 | lesshaste | which needs to be faster |
| 15:27:23 | lesshaste | this is it https://bpaste.net/show/e439dfbbc880 |
| 15:27:32 | lesshaste | it uses itertools but I think exists for nim, right? |
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| 15:29:20 | Araq | not sure what Nimble has for this, the stdlib has 'sequtils' which is somewhat comparable |
| 15:30:45 | Araq | seems a very good exercise to learn Nim, but if your only goal is more speed you might as well just run it with PyPy |
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| 15:32:23 | enthus1ast | lesshaste or compile it to c with nuitka |
| 15:32:32 | lesshaste | enthus1ast, let me try that now |
| 15:33:14 | lesshaste | enthus1ast, it's very odd how nuitka makes a .exe on my ubuntu machine :) |
| 15:33:38 | lesshaste | Araq, I was hoping nim could give me more speed than pypy. Maybe that was optimistic |
| 15:34:27 | Araq | I can easily squeeze more speed than pypy out of it, I bet. but you're a newcomer ;-) |
| 15:34:34 | lesshaste | Araq, ah yes :) |
| 15:34:44 | lesshaste | but I won't be a newcomer forever! |
| 15:34:54 | lesshaste | so nuitka is terrible for this code! |
| 15:34:56 | lesshaste | I wonder why |
| 15:35:10 | Araq | programs like yours also tend to work very well with JITs |
| 15:35:25 | lesshaste | interesting |
| 15:35:27 | Araq | it's bigger programs for which they fail to deliver good performance, IMO. |
| 15:35:45 | lesshaste | that's good for me because I never write bigger programs :) |
| 15:36:17 | lesshaste | it's so bad I am tempted to report it to nuitka :) |
| 15:37:05 | enthus1ast | lesshaste nuitka traverses the python default library, this is often not necessary |
| 15:37:18 | lesshaste | enthus1ast, interesting |
| 15:40:47 | enthus1ast | lesshaste maybe you could find the hotspots with a profiler |
| 15:40:50 | enthus1ast | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/582336/how-can-you-profile-a-python-script |
| 15:41:10 | lesshaste | enthus1ast, I tried that but it's not very informative |
| 15:41:29 | lesshaste | it just says it is perm_ryser which I already knew :) |
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| 15:42:24 | lesshaste | reported it to nuita. It takes twice as long in nuitka as cpython |
| 15:42:29 | lesshaste | and 10x as long as pypy |
| 15:42:32 | lesshaste | nuitka |
| 15:43:27 | lesshaste | not that that was the purpose of coming to this channel :) |
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| 16:01:01 | enthus1ast | lesshaste try it in python 3 |
| 16:01:17 | enthus1ast | python 2 is much slower |
| 16:03:25 | Araq | what? |
| 16:03:31 | Araq | usually Python 3 is slower |
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| 16:09:05 | enthus1ast | i've encountered remarkable speedups only by switching to python 3 don't know what vou've don Araq :P |
| 16:10:44 | enthus1ast | i would at least give it a try |
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| 16:37:34 | Araq | lesshaste: Nim's list comprehensions are in its 'future' module, something to keep in mind |
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| 16:57:49 | lesshaste | Araq, thanks! |
| 16:57:57 | lesshaste | enthus1ast, do you mean pypy + python 3? |
| 16:59:49 | lesshaste | enthus1ast, just using python 3 is not going to give me much of a speedup |
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