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00:09:23PMunchWhat is the best way in Nim to remove the last character of a string?
00:11:47PMunchAnd another question. I have many procs with the same signature (callbacks for Gtk signals), I create the callbacks as anonymous procs but it's getting tedious to write the signature out all the time. Is there a way (other than a template) to use a type definition to create a proc?
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00:16:00PMunchOkay, so setLen can be used to remove a character.
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00:27:36PMunchhttp://ix.io/yGg
00:27:55PMunchThat doesn't work, complains about that it expects an identifier but got (..
00:38:31PMunchNow my code looks like this: http://ix.io/yGh which isn't very nice
00:44:31FromGitter<Varriount> PMunch: Sounds like a job for a template
00:44:52PMunchYeah, I tried: http://ix.io/yGg
00:44:56PMunchBut it didn't like that
00:45:04PMunchComplains that the proc doesn't have a name..
00:45:43FromGitter<Varriount> Why aren't you giving the procedure a name?
00:45:59PMunchBecause it's anonymous
00:46:07PMunchhttp://ix.io/yGh
00:46:13PMunchThere you can see how I use it
00:47:27FromGitter<Varriount> Then why have s dirty template? Giving the procedure a name in the template when it's hygienic will result in hygienic identifiers
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01:19:32PMunchBut I don't want to name the proc
01:19:37PMunchIt's meant to be anonymous
01:19:49PMunchOr rather it doesn't need a name
01:21:11PMunchAs you can see from my use-case all of these callbacks are simple anonymous procedures
01:25:45FromGitter<Varriount> If you define the procedure in a hygienic template, it's name will be a randomly generated identifier, which is virtually the same
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01:46:44PMunchHmm
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01:55:31PMunchI can't get this to work at all..
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02:49:58mahtobis there any current code about dht?
02:50:33mahtoblike it https://github.com/savoirfairelinux/opendht
02:50:34mahtobor any
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03:34:27FromGitter<zacharycarter> mahtob: I don't think so but I could be wrong, best to search the directory for nimble for something like it
03:34:57mahtoblemme
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08:06:31Araqreorder pass has arrived
08:06:37Araqadd this as the first line
08:06:39Araq{.noforward: on.}
08:06:49Araqand compile with -d:nimreorder
08:07:18Araqfeedback is highly appreciated
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08:07:41couven92Araq, sounds interesting, what does it do?
08:08:37Araqit means you can declare your top level statements/procs in any order you like
08:09:45couven92Ah, so basically eliminates the need for prototypes when you want to call a proc that is declared later than where you're calling it?
08:10:34couven92(don't know what we call them in Nim, but in C, function declarations are called prototypes, right?)
08:15:00Araqyes
08:15:03Araqand yes.
08:19:18FromGitter<andreaferretti> nice to know!
08:19:29FromGitter<andreaferretti> not that I have some place where to use it
08:20:04FromGitter<andreaferretti> but maybe in next projects it will come useful :-)
08:26:53cremSome people like to write main function at top and all helpers under it.
08:30:39yglukhovAraq: is there some common pattern for debugging compiler, so that it will print its stack trace on errors?
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08:31:45yglukhovi add assert(false) to localError but sometimes that doesn't help. asserts earlier than needed.
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08:34:49FromGitter<Varriount> Araq: How does the reorder pass affect macros and templates that generate procedures?
08:35:00cremthere's no native protobuf lib for nim, is there?
08:35:19FromGitter<Varriount> crem: Unfortunately, no.
08:35:52FromGitter<Varriount> However if there is a protbuf library for C (or C++) that can be wrapped.
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08:37:53cremThat's not that nice as for C++ there is a .cpp file generated for every message, so it's not just an ordinary library wrapper.
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08:51:57FromGitter<andreaferretti> you can use https://github.com/protobuf-c/protobuf-c to generate c structs and then c2nim to generate the corresponding c definitions
08:52:20FromGitter<andreaferretti> but yeah, it would be much nicer to have a complete solution for nim
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10:28:00cremThere's no find-substring proc (like string's find) for arbitrary sequence, is there? :-\
10:28:21cremHandling unicode string produces some boilerplate.
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12:12:29subsetpark crem you can't write a generic for that?
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12:49:27SentreenThe reorder pass sounds really nice! The need for proc declarations was a major pain point for nim imo, even though it was relatively easy to work around.
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14:58:34PMunchhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/5778
14:58:56PMunchThere Araq, created a test-case similar to the one in tdumptree.nim
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16:09:16nivtype system/converter/template question: how can i make this work? https://gist.github.com/niv/9df6b6237c7a4573c906bf717ae7d871
16:12:47ArrrrI don't think converters work with generics
16:13:34nivawww, okay
16:13:36nivi figured.
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16:20:02stefantalpalaru"./koch web" is broken in HEAD. Error message: asynchttpserver.nim(289, 27) template/generic instantiation from here asyncmacro.nim(43, 27) Error: type mismatch: got (FutureBase, proc (){.closure.})
16:21:26FromGitter<TiberiumN> Araq, wait, you mean that it removes the need for forward declarations? Hmm, I'll try to test it on some of my small projects (because I don't have big ones)
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16:34:35Araqcrem: system.find works for seqs
16:36:19Araqstefantalpalaru: only for OSX though, I think :-)
16:36:26Araqnoticed it too.
16:36:42FromGitter<TiberiumN> Araq: is it normal that some stdlib modules don't work with "{.noforward: on.}"?
16:36:57stefantalpalaruI see this on Linux
16:37:15Araqtravis tests 'koch web' and runs on Linux
16:37:52Araqoh wait, it doesn't... bummer
16:38:27AraqTiberiumN: which ones?
16:38:42FromGitter<TiberiumN> "times" module
16:38:52FromGitter<TiberiumN> if I add noforward pragma, I can't use "TimeInfo" type
16:39:09stefantalpalarunope. no "koch web" here: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/blob/devel/.travis.yml
16:39:10Araqbut yeah, I shouldn't have merged .noforward with the preorder pass, will change that
16:39:18Araqstefantalpalaru: yeah, bummer -.-
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18:37:56FromGitter<zacharycarter> o/ all
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18:38:49Araqzacharycarter, can you add URLs to the Nim playground?
18:39:06Araqwanted to share code via it recently and figured it's impossible
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18:40:45FromGitter<zacharycarter> Araq: you can already do it but it's not ideal
18:40:56FromGitter<zacharycarter> you have to pre url encode the code
18:41:02FromGitter<zacharycarter> I could add funcitonality to automate this pretty easily
18:41:33FromGitter<zacharycarter> but all you need to do presently is attach a query parameter with code as the key
18:41:36FromGitter<zacharycarter> so for example
18:42:55FromGitter<zacharycarter> https://play.nim-lang.org/?code=echo%20%22Hello%20World%22%0A%0Afor%20i%20in%200..%3C120%3A%0A%20%20echo%20i
18:43:36FromGitter<zacharycarter> what's the ideal / preferred way of doing this?
18:43:43FromGitter<zacharycarter> and I'll implement it
18:45:17euantorWould probably be better to create a hash of the code and save it in a DB or something
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18:46:46FromGitter<zacharycarter> I thought about that, but isn't it adding a lot of additional requirements to the app just for sharing snippets? dom96 suggested leveraging gist
18:47:05FromGitter<zacharycarter> https://play.rust-lang.org/
18:47:09FromGitter<zacharycarter> there's the rust playground for comparison
18:47:16euantorYeah, you could use gists
18:48:24FromGitter<zacharycarter> I'll play around with that
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19:39:54FromGitter<TiberiumN> +1 for gists, since it wouldn't require a lot of additional requirements
19:40:52FromGitter<TiberiumN> You can read public gists and create them for anonymous users without a token; however, to read or write gists on a user's behalf the gist OAuth scope is required.
19:41:00FromGitter<TiberiumN> so no auth needed either
19:41:29FromGitter<TiberiumN> but I think that gists should be loaded on the user side, not on the server side :)
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19:46:51FromGitter<zacharycarter> what do you mean by that last sentence?
19:47:45FromGitter<TiberiumN> I mean that they should be loaded in JS code in the browser
19:47:54FromGitter<TiberiumN> also - can we close this pointless PR? https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/6142
19:48:25FromGitter<zacharycarter> it's a zoo at my house
19:48:25FromGitter<zacharycarter> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFmuqdqW0AEkQ1y.jpg
19:49:40FromGitter<TiberiumN> the image doesn't load for me for some reason :(
19:49:49FromGitter<zacharycarter> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFmuqdqW0AEkQ1y.jpg
19:49:55FromGitter<zacharycarter> dunno
19:50:13FromGitter<zacharycarter> https://twitter.com/Hahaitsfunny/status/889934515682062336
19:50:14FromGitter<zacharycarter> twitter link
19:50:58FromGitter<zacharycarter> @TiberiumN I think the server should be responsible for creating the gists
19:51:21FromGitter<zacharycarter> but maybe I'm just mistunderstanding your sentiment
19:51:47FromGitter<TiberiumN> ah, I just didn't knew that there's anonymous gists on github
19:53:09FromGitter<zacharycarter> gotcha
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20:28:42FromGitter<TiberiumN> one more example of python/nim compatibility: https://gist.github.com/TiberiumN/a9128ee017ff5ff33f5dc6d953e6cd06
20:28:58FromGitter<TiberiumN> also I've used new reorder feature, and it works as expected
20:29:35FromGitter<TiberiumN> (probably this isn't the best implementation of the Nim game, but I don't know)
20:30:26FromGitter<TiberiumN> oh wait
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20:31:55subsetparkThe ordering pass doesn't take care of mutual function calls, does it? I assume you still need to forward declare for that
20:32:53cremWhy wouldn't it? With functions it should be much easier than with types.
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20:48:55Araqsubsetpark: correct, didn't implement forward decl generation
20:49:20subsetparkThat's sensible :) Not too much magic
20:49:38Araqseems complex and comes up rarely, I'd rather spend my time on cyclic module dependencies and/or types
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21:06:31mahtobnimgame.nim(18, 11) Error: attempting to call undeclared routine: 'takeTurn'
21:06:42mahtobTiberiumN ?
21:12:32Araq-d:nimreorder
21:12:43Araqbut I'm changing this feature again now :P
21:13:06mahtobstill same erro
21:14:39FromGitter<TiberiumN> You need latest version of compiler
21:14:49FromGitter<TiberiumN> Or you can change the order of procedures
21:14:57FromGitter<TiberiumN> Or add forward declarations
21:16:56mahtobi have 0.17
21:17:56mahtobsorry but why we need to change order of functions
21:18:26mahtobcant nim recognize them.(internal ordering)
21:18:47mahtobs/functions/procedures
21:19:17FromGitter<TiberiumN> It already does with this new feature
21:19:39FromGitter<TiberiumN> You need latest compiler from github sources
21:22:13mahtobhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/commit/ce341982a6b19def86744ed8ff080a7899ae148b
21:22:14mahtob?
21:22:15mahtobhm
21:22:53FromGitter<TiberiumN> Yep
21:23:02mahtobi use v0.17.0 in my distro
21:23:45FromGitter<TiberiumN> Ah, I use devel version almost always :)
21:23:51FromGitter<TiberiumN> Even on arch
21:24:26mahtobsorry but i still dont understand
21:24:47mahtobwhy we need manually order the procs?
21:25:19mahtobif takeTurn is a proc so nim dosnt recognize it?
21:25:24FromGitter<TiberiumN> Because compiler didn't had this feature?
21:25:29mahtobah ok
21:25:51FromGitter<TiberiumN> So takeTurn is used before it's declared
21:25:54mahtobwell which position should be Taketurn
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21:27:06FromGitter<TiberiumN> before play
21:27:13FromGitter<TiberiumN> Oh
21:27:50FromGitter<TiberiumN> And display board should be before takeTurn
21:27:59FromGitter<TiberiumN> And
21:28:02mahtobroot [ ~/Masaüstü ]# ./nimgame
21:28:02mahtobPlayer 1's turn:
21:28:02mahtob5 : *****
21:28:02mahtob4 : ****
21:28:02mahtob3 : ***
21:28:04mahtob2 : **
21:28:06mahtob1 : *
21:28:08mahtob:)
21:28:12mahtobi ordered manually :)
21:28:31FromGitter<TiberiumN> Well i just ported it from python version
21:28:47mahtobhmm i understood clearly at now.
21:28:59mahtobif a proc is defined it should be before using
21:29:15mahtobit should be above
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21:33:27mahtobAraq when do you plan the put 0.18 ?
21:34:53mahtobor 0.17.x ?
21:38:40FromGitter<TiberiumN> Or 1.0 :)
21:39:47FromGitter<TiberiumN> (well, I know it wouldn't make much sense to release 1.0 now)
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21:53:19mahtobwhen i compile old nim projects
21:53:29mahtobit gives me :
21:53:30mahtobWarning: getContent is deprecated [Deprecated]
21:53:38mahtoblike this warnings.
21:53:49mahtobis ti important to run project?
21:53:53FromGitter<TiberiumN> Us
21:54:04FromGitter<TiberiumN> What do you mean?
21:54:31FromGitter<TiberiumN> This deprecated warning means that you should explicitly create http client instance
21:54:49FromGitter<TiberiumN> let client = newHttpClient()
21:55:00FromGitter<TiberiumN> client.getContent(...)
21:57:22mahtobhm ok
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21:59:07FromGitter<TiberiumN> But you can always ignore deprecated warnings (but it's better to fix them especially in your own projects)
21:59:31mahtob+1
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22:11:47dom96Araq: AppVeyor increased our timeout to 90 mins
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22:12:20dom96Araq: All they replied was literally "We increased the timeout to 90 minutes!"
22:12:30dom96So I'm not sure whether they will be willing to increase it more later
22:12:34dom96:?
22:12:37dom96*:/
22:13:16Araqdom96: it still fails though for unknown reasons
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22:36:15PMunchAraq, did you see https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/pull/5778
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