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02:33:49def-pri-pubAraq: have you had to take a look at my proposal for dlopen(): https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/3059/2
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03:10:22FromGitter<Varriount> @zacharycarter My dogs would probably go and hide behind the couch at the sight of a free-roaming bird in the house
03:16:11FromGitter<zacharycarter> @Varriount :P
03:46:32FromGitter<zacharycarter> @dom96 not sure if you're around or not but if you are could you turn caching off on play.nim-lang.org for a few mins?
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05:59:58FromGitter<zacharycarter> anyone know how to get query string parameters using the js backend?
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06:01:05Araqkarax has a way but i forgot the name
06:01:15Araqbut it's just ordinary JS wrapping
06:01:29FromGitter<zacharycarter> hrm Ideally I'd use whatever karax offers
06:01:37FromGitter<zacharycarter> I'm almost done with gists
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06:02:01FromGitter<zacharycarter> I think I found it
06:02:42FromGitter<zacharycarter> thx Araq
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07:00:46Araqthe new reorder feature is now available via
07:00:51Araq{.reorder: on.}
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07:04:39ArrrrWhat does it do?
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07:12:35ftsfreorders your last purchase
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07:24:54AraqArrrr: another attempt to solve the "no forward decls required" problem
07:25:56ArrrrAnother? What happened to the first one?
07:35:40Araqtoo complex
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09:38:56FromGitter<TiberiumN> Araq: will "reorder" feature become default sometime? Or you will add it to experimental features?
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09:42:50Araqit needs much more testing but I hope it to become the default soon'ish
09:43:10Araqit's not planned as yet another on/off switch people have to learn about
09:43:25FromGitter<TiberiumN> oh, that's good
09:44:30ArrrrInter-module?
09:50:04ftsf\o/
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10:57:43FromGitter<TiberiumN> What is wrong with this code? https://gist.github.com/TiberiumN/40d2e55c8c9d2f1c4c2986b8f3fc53b6
10:57:54FromGitter<TiberiumN> it did compile for me, but now it doesn't
10:58:49FromGitter<TiberiumN> error is https://gist.github.com/TiberiumN/db646bec7d548dbe85193015077b835c
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11:04:03yglukhovTiberiumN: future callback should be gcsafe?
11:04:26yglukhovfuture.callback = proc() {.gcsafe.} = blabla
11:04:38FromGitter<TiberiumN> ah, ok, thanks
11:04:43FromGitter<TiberiumN> but we need to update docs too
11:04:54FromGitter<TiberiumN> https://nim-lang.org/docs/asyncdispatch.html
11:05:23yglukhovTiberiumN: are you compiling with --threads:on?
11:05:27FromGitter<TiberiumN> nope
11:05:39FromGitter<TiberiumN> my app is one-threaded and async
11:05:45yglukhovi might be wrong then. does my solution work?
11:05:53FromGitter<TiberiumN> yes it does
11:05:59yglukhovinteresting...
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11:07:04FromGitter<TiberiumN> ah, that's the thing: ⏎ lib\pure\asyncmacro.nim(55, 3) Warning: 'answer' is not GC-safe as it performs an indirect call here [GcUnsafe2] ⏎ errors.nim(8, 5) Warning: ':anonymous' is not GC-safe as it calls 'answer' [GcUnsafe2]
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11:07:32FromGitter<TiberiumN> but I don't know what is an indirect call :)
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11:14:13FromGitter<zacharycarter> ugh I'm so close to gists for the playground but I'm stuck on query string parsing
11:16:06yglukhovTiberiumN: you're probably trying to call a non-gcsafe callback from your presumably gcsafe code
11:17:15FromGitter<TiberiumN> but how callback can be non-gcsafe in one-threaded code?
11:18:39Arrrris this normal? connecting a socket to an empty port I would expect an exception, i think that's what happens under windows https://glot.io/snippets/es3122unxx
11:18:44yglukhovif your callback is of type `proc()` then it is considered not gcsafe. it should be `proc() {.gcsafe.}`. in one-threaded code it's just a warning for you, with --threads:on you would get an error
11:19:13FromGitter<TiberiumN> ah, ok
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12:14:49mahtobhi
12:15:01mahtobi noticed this in forum
12:15:21mahtobwhen i want to add python code it doesnt show with syntax highlight
12:15:25mahtobor php
12:15:32mahtobbut nim code is ok?
12:15:37mahtobbut nim code is ok
12:18:56FromGitter<TiberiumN> dom96: is there any ETA for results of nim community survey?
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12:47:34mahtobsyntax highlight works only for nim ? i couldnt understand code-sorry
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13:13:15krux02mahtob: where is only syntax highlighting for nim?
13:15:15mahtobhttp://ix.io/qXy
13:15:32mahtobi posted it but only nim syntax higlighting
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13:16:34FromGitter<krux02> ah you mean in the forum
13:17:30krux02I really think you have to live with it
13:17:43krux02I hope it's not too bad
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13:19:54mahtobissue is why only nim works well?
13:20:00mahtobi want to understand sense
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13:32:20krux02well the forum is a custom software just for the Nim website
13:32:38krux02so the language nim is the most important language to support
13:38:28subsetparkmahtob: I bet you could open a PR to improve syntax highlighting: https://github.com/nim-lang/nimforum
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13:42:12PMunchhttps://github.com/PMunch/gtk3genui
13:42:20PMunchNow Genui works for gtk3 as well :)
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13:47:02mahtobok krux02 subsetpark but i couldnt find on code where is highlight parsing :(
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13:48:34mahtobhttps://github.com/nim-lang/nimforum/blob/master/utils.nim#L72 ?
13:48:48salewskiPMunch, that is interesting.
13:49:47salewskiI guess you mean for the low level ngtk3? (We have also high level gintro now!)
13:50:29salewskiFor the low level gtk3, I am currently preparing a nimble package.
13:50:59mahtobhey PMUnch
13:51:14mahtobVerifying dependencies for [email protected]
13:51:14mahtob Error: Unsatisfied dependency: nim (>= 0.17.1)
13:51:18salewskiI have just updated that gtk3 to latest gtk 3.22 -- nimble package will be called oldgtk3.
13:51:56mahtobit should be 0.17.0 ?
13:52:05salewskiThat name oldgtk3 is a bit misleading, as it is latest 3.22, but I think name is ok,
13:52:49salewskisince we have gintro package now. So people seeing name oldgtkt can guess that there is another package.
13:54:10mahtoblatest 0.17.0
13:56:38FromGitter<TiberiumN> No, 0.17.1 is current devel
13:56:42FromGitter<TiberiumN> Not release version
13:58:48mahtobhttps://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/releases
13:58:53mahtob i am looking here
13:59:06mahtobdo you mean git version on devel branch
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14:02:47FromGitter<TiberiumN> This version is unreleased
14:02:51FromGitter<TiberiumN> 1) 17.1 is version in devel branch
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14:03:06FromGitter<TiberiumN> you can install it by compiling nim sources, or by choosenim (it's easier with choosenim)
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14:03:38salewskiPMunch, I am a bit confused by your gtk3 sources...
14:03:55FromGitter<TiberiumN> Hmm, how to make stdin.readLine() work for unicode? ⏎ ⏎ it doesn't work on windows with "chcp 65001" command entered before running the code
14:04:20salewskiNote that there is not stefansalewski/ngtk3 at github currently.
14:05:00salewskiThere is ngtk3 at github toplevel, that is lov level gtk 3.20 single packages.
14:05:54salewskistefansalewski/oldgtk3 will be pushed soon. That is a nimble package with low level 3.22.
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14:12:57salewskiAnd PMunch, notice that "import gtk3, glib, gobject" will not work most of the time.
14:13:49salewskiAs my gtk3 needs latest glib/gobject and other people may have installed legacy glib/gobject.
14:15:01salewskiSo for new oldgtk3 nimble package, import will be: import oldgtk3/[glib, gobject, gtk3, cairo, pango, gio]
14:15:17salewskiBye.
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15:46:00krux02if you have emacs do this: (switch-to-buffer (make-comint "NIM" "nim" nil "secret")))
15:46:55krux02that's a nim repl with path completion and history
15:47:00krux02and emacs integration
15:47:16krux02minimal emacs integration
15:47:45krux02alternatively do "rlwrap nim secret" on the shell
15:47:50krux02if you have that
15:50:21subsetparkdom96: is there a reason that choosenim doesn't compile with --linenoise?
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16:03:03krux02subsetpark: well I don't know linenoise is just supposted to be a BSD licensced substitution for GNU readline
16:03:10krux02but it falls short in almost everything
16:04:05ehmryreadline is madness if you look into it
16:04:22krux02I personally don't like it at all and would prefer if on linux there wouldn't be anything at all, so that I can wrap the program with readling using "rlwrap"
16:04:32ehmryyea
16:05:25krux02well I understand that supporting it for completion can be complicated, but basic command line editing with history and path completion that is what you already get when you simply use rlwrap
16:05:29krux02I like it
16:06:05krux02but I never wrote a readline backend, so I don't know how complicated it is
16:06:22krux02but I guess it is pretty complicated like almost every GNU stuff that is that old
16:06:37krux02ok folks I am out for today
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16:06:58ehmryyep, but I'm fine with rlwap and I like using it
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17:18:23FromGitter<TiberiumN> oh my god I didn't knew that "streams" module supported reading booleans, ints, floats from string stream or file stream... ⏎ (I had my own procs lol)
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17:41:23FromGitter<TiberiumN> nim comes with true "batteries included" statement
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18:32:01cremAnyone uses nimlime in Windows?
18:33:03FromGitter<TiberiumN> nah, i use vscode
18:33:12FromGitter<TiberiumN> I mean nim plugin with vscode :)
18:33:23cremSeems that it has trouble finding config (both user and default). Unable to open /C/Users/crem/AppData/Roaming/Sublime Text 3/Packages/NimLime/NimLime.sublime-settings
18:34:29cremvs was the reason I moved from linux 2 years ago. And since then I turned out to write all C++ code in sublime. So maybe now it's time to move back.
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18:36:04ArrrrIs nim's libuv broken? https://nim-lang.org/docs/libuv
18:36:13ArrrrOr alive
18:37:24FromGitter<TiberiumN> https://nim-lang.org/docs/libuv.html ?
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18:37:46FromGitter<TiberiumN> ugh
18:37:46FromGitter<TiberiumN> https://github.com/joyent/libuv/compare/9f6024a6fa9d254527b4b59af724257df870288b...master
18:38:10FromGitter<TiberiumN> seems to be dead - two years old
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18:50:13Araqwe have our own event loop
18:50:20Araqdon't use libuv
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19:05:54cremHow can I iterate over elements of a sequence and mutate them? for (var??) x in mysequece: x += 1
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19:08:38Araqcrem: for x in mitems(s): x += 1
19:09:47cremThanks!
19:10:53FromGitter<lateefj> Crem: any luck with protobuf wrapper?
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19:12:13cremNope, I'm still practicing with basic stuff. I plan to contribute some libraries a bit later when I'm more proficient with the language.
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19:22:45cremIs there anything more idiomatic for the last element of a seq than x[x.len-1]?
19:24:52Araqx[^1]
19:26:17cremThanks!
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19:34:58yglukhovhow do i convert a value of type `ptr Foo` to unchecked array[Foo]?
19:35:51cremnew(X) doesn't care whether X is Object or ref to object, right?
19:37:15FromGitter<TiberiumN> it does
19:37:27FromGitter<TiberiumN> but maybe i'm wrong
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19:43:57cremIs there a way to "unref" a type? E.g. if I have oly type Y ("Y = ref X" and X is not visible), to declare var of type X. E.g var x: (unref??) Y.
19:44:41FromGitter<TiberiumN> ehm, you can dereference a variable (but not a type)
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19:48:38cremto convert ref to ptr, two steps are needed, right? addr(x[])
19:49:05FromGitter<TiberiumN> oh, I don't know about "ptr" stuff, because I almost don't need interfacing with C (c2nim works well enough for me)
19:50:18cremSomehow I need it in pure nim function. :)
19:51:12FromGitter<TiberiumN> well, I don't use manual memory management and threads
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20:07:41PMunchHmm, installed gtk3 from ngtk3 and the cairo version there that it requires doesn't play nice with the nimble cairo version
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20:13:42cremThere are no constructors, are there? Something that forces that the object isn't created without setting up invariant (what I need is to newseq all sequeces in an object).
20:13:57PMunchcrem, not really
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20:14:17PMunchBut many modules (like tables) requries you to call initSomething() to initialise
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20:14:30PMunchWhich is kind of the norm for these kind of things
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20:29:44PMunchhttp://ix.io/yHM
20:29:49PMunchHmm, that doesn't look good
20:41:01mahtobfriends i need some ideas about notifying at nim
20:41:25mahtobi want to send messages to my friend
20:41:32mahtobfriends*
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20:41:54PMunchDefine messages
20:42:01mahtobthey will run a program that listen site
20:42:14mahtobwhen i put new messages to central site
20:42:25mahtoball of them get the message
20:42:35mahtobi want to code client side in nim
20:42:51mahtobis there any code example or what do you offer me?
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20:43:27PMunchSo you already have some service that you wat to communicate with?
20:43:38mahtobyes
20:43:56mahtobjust i edit json file or anything
20:43:59PMunchDo they offer an API?
20:43:59mahtobon server
20:44:07PMunchAh
20:44:14mahtobclients will listen the json file
20:44:21PMunchRight
20:44:26salewskiPMunch, you may consult the logs, I replied concerning gtk3 a few hours earlier.
20:44:26mahtobif any new message comes ...
20:44:36PMunchIRC logs?
20:44:51PMunchmahtob, you should look at the web examples
20:44:56salewskiNim IRC logs.
20:45:00PMunchReading data from a site
20:45:09mahtobnim code ex?
20:45:13PMunchAnd the json module if the messages are in a JSON format :)
20:45:17salewskihttps://irclogs.nim-lang.org/
20:45:30PMunchYes, the examples contains code examples
20:45:46PMunchsalewski, yeah I know where to find them :) I was just answering mahtob
20:46:47salewskiPMunch, I will upload nimble package oldgtk3 tomorrow.... Details I wrote some hours ago.
20:47:06PMunchYeah I'm reading it now
20:47:28salewskiBye.
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21:07:28cremslicing of seq doesn't copy anything, does it?
21:10:05PMunchcrem, pretty sure it does
21:10:19PMunchSince you can later edit the slice
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21:12:38cremIndeed.. Is there a way to have immutable slice without copying? Or not slice, but anything. "View into the contents of seq".
21:15:29PMunchA custom type?
21:15:52PMunchobject = start, stop: int; data: seq
21:17:48cremptr seq?.. And define indexing operator?.. Hm, there should be something standard for that! I can the just pass the pair pointer to first element and size, but not sure if it's possible to index a pointer like in C++. :)
21:17:50PMunchThen you can create a proc `[]` that returns data based on the start/stop values and the seq
21:18:25cremYeah, but I'd expect there's something basic for that.
21:18:37PMunchPossible, maybe. Recommended, definitely not.
21:18:56PMunchYou could return a tuple?
21:18:59cremIf seq is immutable, does slicing still copy?
21:19:04PMunchIf you don't want a type?
21:19:09PMunchHmm, good question
21:19:28PMunchCould be that the compiler is smart enough not to
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21:20:44cremHm, there is some Slice[] type! Which is different from seq slicing x[a..b]. Might be what I need
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21:22:08cremah no, slice is just pair of ints.
21:22:14cremto define slice bounds.
21:22:54PMunchYeah, that's what get passed to a function if you want to create a [x .. y] proc for your own type
21:23:09cremHm, can i slice openarray..
21:24:52cremno i cannot
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22:19:30FromGitter<zacharycarter> I'm upgrading the playground now Araq / dom96
22:19:34FromGitter<zacharycarter> gist support should be in shortly
22:19:43dom96zacharycarter: awesome
22:20:00PMunchCool
22:20:11PMunchPaste a link and run?
22:20:50FromGitter<zacharycarter> as soon as the upgrade is done I'll post one
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22:23:54PMunchHaha, I meant is that how the gist support would work?
22:24:10FromGitter<zacharycarter> oh... yup!
22:26:41FromGitter<zacharycarter> weird I'm getting compile errors on linux but not on osx
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22:43:07FromGitter<zacharycarter> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=59791afac101bc4e3ac35296]
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22:59:22FromGitter<zacharycarter> dom96: mind turning off caching for a few?
23:00:05dom96zacharycarter: can't test locally?
23:00:24FromGitter<zacharycarter> I had things working locally
23:00:35FromGitter<zacharycarter> then I upgraded my version of Nim
23:00:40FromGitter<zacharycarter> I'll try to get thigns working locally again then bug you
23:03:51dom96turning off cloudflare is risky
23:04:13dom96so it's better if you test locally
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23:06:15FromGitter<zacharycarter> gotcha will do
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23:14:47FromGitter<zacharycarter> Araq: I keep getting the following karax error -
23:14:54FromGitter<zacharycarter> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim?at=5979226e45fc670746cd7d66]
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