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00:25:58 | mcc | Can I get `nim c` to export a .c file without trying to compile it? |
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01:26:38 | kier | mcc: "nim c -c file.nim" will create just the C files in nimcache/, without compiling or linking them |
01:27:21 | mcc | ok |
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10:01:57 | vegansk | Araq hi. I'm writing async streams module and I have one silly question. Can I store the pointer to the async proc? When I tried to do that, I got an error: "lib/pure/asyncdispatch.nim(1596, 8) Error: 'cb' is not GC-safe as it accesses 'nameIterVar' which is a global using GC'ed memory" |
10:02:42 | vegansk | Here is the problem line: https://gist.github.com/vegansk/d141d5ce956b61c6d314aac881527250#file-async_pointer-nim-L18 |
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10:07:56 | Araq | vegansk: all your callbacks need to be annotated with .gcsafe |
10:09:05 | vegansk | Ataq, that's it! Thanks! |
10:09:17 | vegansk | s/Ataq/Araq :-) |
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12:10:49 | gour | morning |
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12:11:32 | gour | i'd like to try gokr's Spry language and have to install nimble, but after installing nim via apt-get (Debian sid), it fails: https://bpaste.net/show/e3f0886f5011 |
12:11:35 | gour | any hint? |
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12:20:00 | gokr | Mmm, that's something with paths I think. But... I wouldn't use apt-get - its so easy to bootstrap Nim I would just use the github dance. In fact... |
12:20:15 | gokr | ...in spry there is a VagrantFile that installs Nim, nimble and Spry. |
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12:21:02 | gokr | gour: https://github.com/gokr/spry/blob/master/Vagrantfile |
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12:22:14 | gour | ok, let me try with master... |
12:22:21 | gokr | I know that... you want to use apt-get etc - but Nim doesn't need installation, you just need to point your PATH to it. So it doesn't pollute your system. |
12:23:33 | gour | gokr: is it OK to just copy nim executable into ~/bin or it's not enough? |
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12:23:55 | gokr | Mmmm, better to keep it where it is - but... a link works IIRC. |
12:24:07 | gokr | Nim finds all the other stuff relative to its own location. |
12:24:20 | gokr | But an ln -s should work. |
12:24:32 | gour | ok |
12:24:52 | gokr | It works for me - that's how I have set mine up :) |
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12:25:31 | gokr | Then I have some bash scripts to switch between Nims. So I have both a devel and a master cloned out - and just switch by messing with that softlink in ~/bin |
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12:27:14 | gour | ok, now it worked so i can proceed... |
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12:29:02 | gokr | cool |
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12:31:39 | gour | spry tests fail... |
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13:28:59 | gokr | Nah, we solved the spry tests failing - it was due to a missing dependency :) |
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15:07:26 | gokr | dom96: Ok, so... where do I buy the book? :) |
15:07:41 | gokr | Someone said it was the last day for a rebate |
15:17:55 | gokr | dom96: Just bought your book :) |
15:19:04 | kier | are there any functions to count the number of bits set in an integer value other than math.countBits32? |
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15:54:31 | dom96 | gokr: yay, thanks! Let me know what you think. |
15:54:46 | dom96 | So yeah, in case anybody else wants to buy my book at 50% off. Today is your last chance! |
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16:46:35 | kier | considering making a feature request for more efficient popcnt (i.e. use the C compiler intrinsic that can generate a single assembly instruction instead of a 4-line algorithm), does this sound like something that might be feasible? |
16:46:56 | kier | (after 1.0 is all sorted of course) |
16:50:51 | Araq | is it really more work to create a PR for this right away? |
16:54:23 | kier | I'll give it a shot |
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17:16:44 | gokr | Read this fascinating article about "Nostradamus distributor" - how to make wicked fast interpreters. That was interesting. |
17:17:05 | gokr | http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx25_nostradamus.htm |
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17:29:52 | Araq | already know it, couldn't reproduce its results. just use Nim's {.computedGoto.} |
17:30:24 | Araq | it does all these kind of tricks. |
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18:46:49 | libman | What easy binary marshalling solutions are currently available for Nim? The C protobuf binding doesn't look easy. |
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18:49:18 | libman | or serialization (us Python kiddies think they're the same) |
18:49:37 | Araq | marshal.nim uses json |
18:52:35 | libman | Yeah, I need something faster... |
18:53:28 | Araq | for Nim's symbol files I rolled my own format ... so don't ask me. |
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19:01:27 | libman | In goland, https://github.com/alecthomas/go_serialization_benchmarks seems to suggest https://github.com/gogo/protobuf approach is best. |
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19:27:51 | euantor | FlatBuffers are meant to be faster than protocol buffers too |
19:27:56 | euantor | Or cap'n proto |
19:28:11 | euantor | But these things come and go as the wind changes it seems |
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19:58:09 | emery | there is bencode, from bittorrent |
19:59:03 | emery | but again you'll probably have to write your own encoder |
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20:21:48 | dom96 | Calinou: one example of an annoying sticky header: https://blog.lookout.com/blog/2016/08/25/trident-pegasus/ |
20:22:13 | Calinou | hi dom96 :) |
20:22:20 | Calinou | oh yeah, that's way too huge |
20:22:32 | Calinou | even on mobile devices it's huge |
20:22:57 | dom96 | Calinou: so how are things going? :) |
20:23:36 | Calinou | dom96: didn't have time to work on it today, I am tired :/ |
20:24:01 | Araq | hmm these words. can actually connect them in this way? |
20:24:11 | Araq | *can you |
20:24:21 | Araq | get some coffee or coke |
20:24:28 | dom96 | Calinou: No worries. I'm tired too. |
20:24:29 | Calinou | I don't like coffee, and don't have coke :( |
20:24:37 | dom96 | hah, same! |
20:24:48 | Araq | drink some beer instead. |
20:24:51 | dom96 | I also saw this site today: http://parallel.princeton.edu/openpiton/ |
20:24:58 | dom96 | The panels are similar to what I had in mind |
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20:25:08 | Araq | look at me. I just had 5 beers. and do I look tired? hell no. |
20:25:44 | Calinou | yeah, looks clean |
20:26:01 | Calinou | university starts in exactly 7 days for me |
20:26:26 | dom96 | Araq is about to hit ballmer's peak. |
20:26:42 | euantor | I can never remember at which point it peaks |
20:26:44 | dom96 | Calinou: Wish I was going back to Uni :\ |
20:26:44 | euantor | Is it 7? |
20:26:57 | euantor | I'm glad I'm not going back to university |
20:27:04 | euantor | 4 years was more than enough for me |
20:27:09 | dom96 | euantor: Depends how fast you get drunk :P |
20:27:10 | Araq | nah, 7 beers are a replacement for a meal. |
20:27:22 | Araq | and then you had nothing to drink with it. |
20:27:29 | euantor | haha |
20:27:33 | Araq | dunno if this joke works in english... |
20:27:47 | euantor | I suppose it depends on the beer. |
20:27:56 | Calinou | dom96: well, uni is easy for me… but I don't have *that* much spare time |
20:28:01 | euantor | A lot of the common beers here are pretty nasty |
20:28:18 | dom96 | Calinou: Guess you won't get to work on the site after the 7 days? :\ |
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20:28:24 | Calinou | oh, I sure can |
20:28:29 | dom96 | oh good |
20:29:01 | Calinou | we have some homework to do sometimes, but usually I can dedicate an hour or two to open source :P |
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20:29:18 | Calinou | unlike other students I'm not that much of a gamer |
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20:33:33 | dom96 | Awesome. An hour or two seems a bit low, but I shouldn't complain :) |
20:35:59 | Calinou | maybe three at times, depends how late I can go to sleep :p |
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20:36:08 | Calinou | sometimes I start at 8h and end at 18h30 |
20:36:13 | Calinou | rare, but can happen |
20:37:04 | Araq | sleep is so overrated |
20:37:46 | cheatfate | Araq, only for vampires :) |
20:38:05 | Calinou | night |
20:38:55 | gokr | libman: msgpack? |
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20:40:25 | dom96 | Calinou: wow, you must have a lot of practicals. |
20:40:35 | euantor | We |
20:40:46 | euantor | * We only got like 3-4 hours a day at university |
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20:40:52 | dom96 | same |
20:40:55 | Calinou | dom96: yeah, we do, sadly they're not always very useful… for example we'll have a Blender class next semester |
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20:41:07 | Calinou | and, that class seems to be based on the official French tutorial on Blender's docs… |
20:41:10 | euantor | We'd have a lecture at 9AM, then maybe some practicals around 1PM, some at maybe 5PM and that was it |
20:41:10 | Calinou | ._. |
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20:41:27 | dom96 | we have practicals too, they're usually booked for 3 hours but you can finish them in 30 minutes |
20:41:35 | Calinou | they're 1h30 each here |
20:41:45 | Calinou | sometimes I finish in 30 minutes, and wander on GitHub/IRC for the rest :p |
20:41:53 | dom96 | Calinou: can't you leave? |
20:41:57 | Calinou | nope |
20:42:07 | euantor | Ours were 2 hours, but were super easy and were finished after 30 minutes or an hour at the most |
20:42:08 | Calinou | we can only leave after evaluations/exams |
20:42:26 | euantor | I can't think of a single practical that actually lasted for the whole 2 hours |
20:42:30 | Calinou | usually I finish networking exam in 25-30 minutes, while we have 1 hour |
20:42:48 | dom96 | That's so strange |
20:42:49 | Calinou | (I still get a pretty good grade, last semester I got 17.5/20) |
20:42:53 | dom96 | I would protest this. |
20:43:04 | Calinou | I feel like I'm at high school sometimes :/ |
20:43:22 | euantor | I take it you pay for University there? |
20:43:29 | dom96 | It does seem rather high schooly to me. |
20:43:31 | gokr | Oh, wow: http://blog.qt.io/blog/2016/08/25/qt-creator-4-1-0-released/ |
20:43:37 | gokr | (search for Nim there) |
20:43:45 | euantor | I was lucky and got into University before the fees here in the UK went up |
20:44:06 | dom96 | euantor: oh, how much were they before? |
20:44:31 | Calinou | euantor: no, I'm paid to go to it :] |
20:44:32 | euantor | They were capped at £3500 a year I think |
20:44:35 | dom96 | Thankfully because i've been living in Northern Ireland I only had to pay like £3600 |
20:44:44 | euantor | Now they're £9000 a year |
20:44:46 | dom96 | So I guess they are still behind the changes |
20:44:49 | Calinou | it's public university |
20:44:54 | euantor | So my total fees were about the same as for one year |
20:45:04 | dom96 | Calinou: oh, that's different then |
20:45:17 | euantor | That's pretty good |
20:45:32 | Calinou | wow, great, Qt Creator got more syntax themes and Nim support :D |
20:45:33 | euantor | In Scotland it's completely free, so long as you've lived there for 3 years |
20:46:01 | dom96 | gokr: oooh awesome |
20:46:07 | dom96 | Time for a tweet about this! |
20:46:32 | euantor | I've never actually used Qt Creator. Cool to see Nim support though! |
20:46:32 | Calinou | it's already on reddit |
20:46:35 | * | Calinou wanted to post it there |
20:46:45 | Calinou | euantor: apparently, Qt Creator is one of the better open source IDEs out there for C++ |
20:46:46 | gokr | dom96: It spreads "Nim" all over, like say here: http://blog.qt.io/blog/2016/08/25/qt-creator-4-1-0-released/ |
20:46:52 | gokr | Oops, wrong url |
20:46:59 | gokr | I meant: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-Creator-4.1 |
20:47:23 | dom96 | gokr: indeed, nice. Too bad they didn't link to our site... |
20:48:13 | Araq | btw 'nimble publish' shoudl work again |
20:48:19 | dom96 | Araq: ooh yay |
20:48:28 | Araq | since json now uses OrderedTables |
20:49:07 | euantor | Nice one |
20:49:17 | euantor | The last package I published with it caused a massive diff |
20:51:07 | dom96 | https://twitter.com/nim_lang/status/768913437506273290 |
20:51:33 | dom96 | Anybody tested the Nim support yet? |
20:51:44 | dom96 | Love how the reddit post include Nim in the title |
20:51:49 | dom96 | *includes |
20:52:14 | gokr | This is filcuc's stuff, right? |
20:52:14 | dom96 | wouldn't it be cool if Qt adopted Nim :P |
20:52:21 | dom96 | I think so |
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20:53:51 | gokr | It is, he got it into official Qt repo. I am just looking at it - massive stuff. |
20:55:08 | ldlework | gokr: he means, writing Qt in Nim |
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20:55:30 | gokr | ldlework: ehm? |
20:55:45 | ldlework | I thought you were responding to dom96 question. |
20:56:02 | gokr | No, I was more responding to that yes, it's filcuc's stuff. |
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21:00:05 | gokr | And no, it doesn't have gdb pretty printers in it - but otherwise sure, debugging stepping breakpoints etc works - but I knew that from testing QtCreator myself a while back. |
21:00:35 | gokr | A pic from when I played with it: http://files.krampe.se/nim/qtcreator/qtcreator.png |
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22:27:31 | gokr | confused about this... Method lock level warnings and "benign" pragma which ... I don't know, doesn't work? |
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22:59:03 | krux02 | is it forseeable futute to support this syntax for a procedure with generic arguments: file.memptr[int](128)? |
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